This Guy Shares the $20K/Month Skill No One Talks About

There are people quietly making $300,000, $400,000, even $500,000 a year working from home… selling other people’s products… with almost zero overhead.

No company, no ads, no brand building. In this episode we talk to Kayvon who has trained more of these people than anyone else to get the deal on how it works.

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Show Notes

What a “Closer” Actually Is (And Isn’t)

A lot of people hear “sales” and picture cold calls, door knocking, or telemarketers reading scripts to strangers.

That’s not what high-ticket closing is.

A closer:

  • Talks only to people who already raised their hand

  • Knows the product exists

  • Knows they have a problem

  • Knows they’re considering buying

Your job isn’t marketing.

Your job isn’t convincing.

Your job is taking someone who already wants the outcome and helping them cross the line.

No credit card = no close.

Everything else is just conversation.

Why High-Ticket Closing Is a Top-Tier Business Skill

Here’s the math that makes this obvious:

  • Typical deal sizes: $10k–$50k

  • Typical commission: 20%

  • One $10k sale = $2,000

  • Two sales per day = $4,000/day

That’s life-changing money for most people.

And the crazy part?

  • You don’t need an idea

  • You don’t need a product

  • You don’t need to be an entrepreneur

  • You don’t need a degree

  • You don’t need capital

You’re an intrapreneur; operating inside someone else’s business, with none of the overhead and a tonne of the upside.

The Catch: Not Everyone Can Do It (And It’s Not Why You Think)

On paper, closing looks easy:

  • Follow the script

  • Ask the questions

  • Listen

  • Get paid

In reality, most people fail, not because the opportunity isn’t real but because they won’t do the work.

Not the technical work.

The internal work.

The real reasons people don’t succeed:

  • Fear of failure

  • Fear of success

  • Lack of self-worth

  • No clear goal (“chief aim”)

  • Identity stuck at a lower income level

You can’t outsell your identity.

If deep down you see yourself as someone who “makes $3k a month,” that’s where you’ll stay, no matter how good the script is.

Business Is Simple. People Aren’t.

One of the biggest truths in the episode:

People aren’t failing because business is complicated. They’re failing because they won’t do simple things consistently.

Examples that kill results:

  • Not printing the script

  • Not showing up to calls

  • Not following the process

  • Not practicing

  • Not taking feedback

  • Not taking responsibility

Business systems work.

Sales frameworks work.

Opportunities work.

Many people don’t/won’t.

Most People Want the Identity, Not the Work

One of the most brutal lines in the episode:

“They don’t want to be closers. They just want people to think they’re closers.”

This applies to:

  • Entrepreneurs

  • Founders

  • Course buyers

  • “Wantrepreneurs”

  • Personal brand builders

Buying the course feels like progress…

Talking about the idea feels like progress…

Posting about the journey feels like progress…

None of that is progress.

Progress is doing the boring, uncomfortable, repetitive work consistently, when no one’s watching.

You Can’t Buy Your Way Out of Founder Problems

This is massive for anyone running a business:

Most companies stuck at $3–4M don’t need:

  • Another closer

  • Another setter

  • Another hire

They need the founder to level up.

The person who got the business to the first few million often isn’t the person who can take it to $10M+, unless they change how they think, lead, and operate.

You can’t outsource:

  • Conviction

  • Vision

  • Leadership

  • Identity

Trying to “buy” your way out of that never works.

Sell First. Build Second.

One of the most actionable rules in the entire episode:

“I won’t build anything unless I know I can sell it.”

Many founders waste years building:

  • Courses

  • Products

  • Programs

  • Features

  • Businesses

…that the market never asked for.

What you want doesn’t matter.

What the market will pay for does.

Sell first.

Validate demand.

Then build.

Why Objections Are Almost Always the Salesperson’s Fault

This is a killer insight for sales and founders:

If the same offer, same leads, same price produces:

  • “Too expensive” for one person

  • “I need to think about it” for another

  • Easy closes for a third

The difference isn’t the offer.

It’s the person delivering it.

People project their own beliefs onto prospects.

If you think it’s expensive; they will too.

If you don’t fully believe; they’ll feel it.

The best closers don’t “handle objections.”

They eliminate them before they come up.

High-Income Skills Come Before “Passive Income”

This is a foundational framework discussed in the episode:

Most people want:

  • Passive income

  • Mailbox money

  • Freedom

But they skip the first step.

The real order is:

  1. Develop a high-income skill

  2. Use it to create cash flow

  3. Build a business (optional)

  4. Invest profits into assets

High-ticket closing is one of the fastest high-income skills to learn.

High ticket dropshipping (done properly) is another.

Copywriting, systems, integrations, ads; all high-income skills.

School doesn’t teach this.

The market pays for it anyway.

AI Is Not Replacing You. But Someone Using AI Will.

One of the strongest modern takeaways:

AI doesn’t replace unskilled people.

It amplifies skilled people.

Examples from the episode:

  • AI call analysis

  • AI follow-up systems

  • AI objection handling

  • AI email sequences

  • AI roleplay and coaching

But AI is only as good as the person prompting it.

If you don’t understand sales, AI won’t save you.

If you don’t understand business, AI won’t build one for you.

Skill first.

AI second.

Consistency Beats Talent (By a Mile)

A recurring theme:

You don’t need to be special.

You don’t need to be brilliant.

You don’t need to be the best.

You need to:

  • Show up

  • Follow the process

  • Do the basics

  • Do it consistently

In today’s world, average effort puts you in the top tier, because most people won’t even do that.

The Hardest Truth in this Episode

This line quietly sums everything up:

“The tragedy isn’t that we aim high and miss.
It’s that we aim low, succeed, and call it good.”

Most people settle…

Not because they have to…

But because it’s comfortable.

Business, whether closing, ecommerce, or anything else, forces you to confront that.

And that’s why most people quit.

High-ticket closing is real.

Online business works.

But only if you do.

There are no hacks.

No shortcuts.

No magic scripts.

Just skills, identity, consistency, and responsibility.

Most people don’t fail because they chose the wrong model…

They fail because they refuse to become the person the model requires.

Links Mentioned

Kayvon Kay – Kayvon has trained over 30,000 sales reps across 101 countries. He’s the go-to for high ticket closing.

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Timestamps

00:00 — Joys of remote closing

01:20 — What is a closer?

05:45 — Closing vs traditional sales roles

12:15 — Do the hardwork and invest

25:27 — Don’t shoot so low

31:20 — Will you do the work?

39:30 — Wealth Triangle

43:30 — Changes in closing

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